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Post by buckfreak on Jun 12, 2005 10:36:31 GMT -5
Heres a question for the guys that use alot of tension devises on coyote snares. OK, how short of a snare could you use on a kill pole set up with a tension spring? Most of what I read with the springs is based on longer snares. Is it possible to use say a 3 ft snare with a choke spring and chained camloc and still be effective? Will Marty's stinger springs work on shorter snares too? Another guy and I are playing around with some coyote stuff and I was wondering about incorporating choke springs into the system we are brainstorming on. I know a camloc with teeth is good and have heard springs make them better but need to know the minimum length they are effective on. Thanks guys in advance
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Post by conibear on Jun 12, 2005 10:55:29 GMT -5
Hi buckfreak i've used three to four foot amberg kill snares in very, very heavy brush were entangelment was great i've never used that short on kill poles before but can't see why it would'nt work, thats my 2 cents worth p.s never tried the marty stinger but have heard great things about them .
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Post by Snareman on Jun 12, 2005 13:33:18 GMT -5
I've used them on snares as short as 5ft, but usually up to 11ft and saw no difference in compression. The Ambergs come with the 24lb springs, which coon, fox and bobcat can compress. While I use even shorter, I know of several who use a 5ft snare on a kill pole utilizing the kill spring with excellent results. The 75lb spring compression around 40lbs or slightly less. A coyote doesn't need all that length as some have eluded to, 12ft, etc, to compress a spring, but it sure doesn't hurt it any. It's a cool thing seeing a coyote strung out on his side with the area looking like nothing happened. I can't recall his name, and he might be here, but I know a Canadian snareman that attaches his snare loops to galvanized wire and wraps that to trees and has used compression springs on his camlocs with good results. But because he was in good entanglement anyway, he said it was inconclusive if the spring helped in his situation.
Good luck,
Snareman
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Post by buckfreak on Jun 12, 2005 16:30:30 GMT -5
I was wondering because if a coyote fights a snare like a dog being broke to tie length might not be as critical as one might think. If they back up against it and pull it should shut down regardless of length. Someone that has the numbers tell me if I am all wet or not. If the snare is anchored solid and the coyote is able to compress the spring it should be curtains. Have had guys tell me about the long snares and coyotes layed out and were able to reuse the cable. Just something we are working on and its always good to get opinions and ideas.
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